The Paths of Ideals and Kingship: Another look at Fate of Nasuverse
Posted by Aorii in Anime, Crossvision, Light Novels, Visual Novels, tags: Black & White, Fate/stay night, Fate/zero, Light Novel, Visual NovelReading Eternal’s review on the themes of Fate/stay night has gotten my brains cranking again regarding this epic storyline that Nasu (and Urobuchi in Fate/zero) have envisioned and brought to life before us. Eternal highlights how the three paths of Fate/stay night — Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, Heaven’s Feel — are brought together to conceptualize the question of “what is the definition of a hero”. Although, this same comparison may be made to several other themes within the Fateverse. To broaden out the scope, one can say that Nasu’s writings are a critical analysis by storytelling on “the definition of ideal within different scopes of black and white”.
Typing this reminds me of the days when I played Fate/stay night before it was translated, relying on a dictionary and lots of guesswork… resulting in migraines and a desire to never do so again.
Fate/stay night
In Fate, the ideal is sheltered. It is carefully preserved within Saber and Shirou’s dreams. Throughout the route, the Holy Grail War revealed only one of its hideous traits — the taint of the grail itself. In this scenario, the path that Shirou and Saber walks is a black and white one, where the borders are clearly defined between what is right and what is wrong. Heroism faced only the impossibility of perfection, of saving everyone, but not the contradictions that will drive home the themes of the two latter paths. In my opinion, Fate ended with the least impact on Shirou. Yes, he made Saber aware of both her efforts and her limits, and he was given a dose on becoming the “Ally of Justice”. But the fact he has yet to tackle and overcome the dark side of heroism means that the Archer of Unlimited Blade Works was still bound to happen. This leads us to…
In Unlimited Blade Works, the ideal is disillusioned, broken, and then renewed. Here Archer realizes the true despair of a Heroic Spirit — “saving” was the equivalence of “cleaning up”, the cleansing of the most profane of messes. The World will always require saving when things go wrong, and heroes will constantly be exposed to the darkest and foulest products of the World. UBW brought the first true cracks in Shirou’s resolve, for he was facing himself, a far more experienced version who has seen the truths of the World. In other words, his ideals were finally brought against its first true philosophical challenge — the despair of a former hero, echoing the pain and sorrow that he cleans from the World, over and over again. However, what Unlimited Blade Works does not do, is break the barrier. The boundary may have been blurred, but black and white were kept as separate entities. Archer’s ordeals, after all, were still kept as the products of Worldly evils. Both Shirous gain a renewed sense of determination, but nothing has yet to break through the barriers protecting Shirou’s dreams, to force him to question his fundamental determination…
This brings us to Heaven’s Feel. Where the boundaries between black and white were not merely blurred, but completely shattered. The concepts of morality were taken from its normal, idealized, and comfortable positions, mashed against each other and blended together. It is here that Shirou’s ideals were laid prone, truly unprotected against the onslaught on harsh realism — life in its full scope. It is also here that Shirou betrayed his ideals, realizing that while one form of heroism is propelled by pure ideals, the other is driven by selfless desire…
Comparing to Fate/zero:
“True. We are tyrants, therefore, we are heroes.” — Alexander (Rider)
Fate/zero really does a wondrous job of reiterating this entire argument once again. It may have been limited to one scene, a scene filled with as much humor and action as it does on philosophical discussion, but it did an excellent job of putting Fate/stay night themes into perspective once again.
In Fate/zero, book 2, Act 8 Part 5–6, the Feast of the Kings commences between the three of the most legendary kings in World History and Mythology — Saber/Arturia, the King of Knights; Archer/Gilgamesh, the King of Heroes; and Rider/Iskandr, the King of Conquerors (better known as Alexander the Great — the King of Kings). As godly wine is served with Gilgamesh’s Gate of Babylon, the three proceeds in a battle of ideologies. What starts off as a contest of “who has the most legitimate wish for the Holy Grail” devolves into a clash of “What it means to be King”.
Saber’s ideals on Kingship is one all Fate/stay night fans are familiar with — the King should be incarnate of perfection judgment — fair, unbiased, and untainted by human emotions, yet at the same time cold and inhumane. Saber believes that it is the destiny of the King to walk alone, to be lonely for eternity. It’s Fate all over again, and Alexander was quick to ridicule her “Kingship”, comparing it to the sheltered dream of an naive little girl — one that did not know the meaning of ruler-ship, one whom is unfit to be “King”.
“Tonight was a banquet among kings. However, Saber! I do not recognize your kingship anymore!” — Alexander
Gilgamesh’s beliefs are the exact opposite. Once again, as we all know from Fate/stay night, Gilgamesh follows a narcissist view that the King is the sun. The people, the kingdom, the state — they must all revolve around the wishes of the King. If Saber’s ideals of the King were the white, then Gilgamesh certain represents the black, although with some blurry borders once again. His rulership were that of a tyrant, and I for one fail to see any real merits in Gilgamesh’s Kingship. But one fact is undeniable — he is a Hero. Reality proves this today, as whatever one might say of his rule, his accomplishments, the manifestations of his desires, are sang as achievements beyond the realm of ordinary men.
This brings us to Alexander, who bridges the gap between Saber and Gilgamesh. His view of Kingship was best summed up by a paragraph of his own:
“As king, you must have stronger desires than anyone else. You must be more magnificent, more easily angered than everyone else! You should be both pure and chaotic, a man who was more real than any other man. Only through this, could your subjects be impressed by the king, and only this, would the message of ‘if only I was king, that would be wondrous’ would be imprinted upon the people’s heart”
To Alexander, Kingship is about both “self” and “the people”. It is about both “ideals” and “desires”. It is an art, of channeling one’s desires (like Gilgamesh) to inspire the will of the people, thus becoming the embodiment of their ideals (like Saber). He then proves the legitimacy of his statement by summoning his army — the reality marble Ionian Hetairoi. It is an army that truly belonged to him, each rank and file filled with soldiers whom once fought and ate with him, who shared his vision and dreams, who chose to follow him into death by becoming heroic spirits themselves.
Such proof shook Saber to her very core… as once again, the boundary of black and white had been completely shattered, its contents mixed…
Saber, and Fate route itself, is about the pure ideals of man, of the idealized perfect ruler. Where morality is clearly defined, and where dreams are kept protected. Is such naivety a bad thing? Not necessarily. Just as Gilgamesh falls in love with Saber over her virtue of purity, man still dreams of the days when their ideals held true.
“Try harder, O King of Knights. Sometimes, I think you’re still pretty cute.” — Gilgamesh
Meanwhile, Unlimited Blade Works and Gilgamesh cracks the morality barrier by offering an opposing opinion. Then, summing it up with Heaven’s Feel and Alexander, who puts things into perspective by bridging the gap between “ideal” and “desire”.
I’m not even going to go into Kiritsugu’s actions. You can find out about that yourself in the novels by reading just how inhumane Shirou’s surrogate father and role model really is…
In the end, I guess our favorite paths in Fate/stay night also reflects our view of the World, of morality itself…
How do you want your Black & White? separate? lightly-mixed? or stir-fried?






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Good post. I especially like the parallels with Fate/zero, because I haven’t read it yet (and this pretty much convinced me to read it). I think I realized it unconsciously at the time, but in retrospect, I can really appreciate how similar Saber and Shirou were in the first route.
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