Perception of Otaku and Merchandise Blogging
Posted by Aorii in Fandom General, Random RantsAs Gizmodo was kind enough to remind us all on how society view Otakus, I find myself once again temporarily agreeing with the Otaku Elimination Game (the horror of it!) on all the DannyChoo wannabe blogs.
Otaku
These folks are totally obsessed with Japan and its anime culture, collecting all sorts of figurines of either huge-breasted fantasy girls or shy-looking schoolgirls and having bookshelves full of manga books and anime DVDs. They replace normal social interactions with hours spent fantasizing about a world that doesn’t actually exist. Sad would be the word for it.
Yeah, it’s easy to claim they don’t understand, but sadly this seems to be what we’re coming off to the rest of society as.
So what if it’s bookshelves full of manga and anime DVDs, there’s plenty of people how there with shelves full of movie DVDs and music CDs, not because they’re necessarily a movie/music geek but because they like it. This can be left simply as a case of anime fandom not quite accepted by Western society yet, and I’ll be interested to see what they say another decade down the line with the current trends of growth. However, other merchandise such as figures, and especially things like dakimakuras, will always have a stigma to them.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t mind the collection of figures, plushies, gunpla, wallscrolls, posters, etc. I have a few of each of those things so I’d be an excessive hypocrite otherwise (although I will always say NO! to dakimakuras). Furthermore, when you look at it from another perspective, it’s no different from taping up the poster of your favorite singer, or collecting stuffed animals, or regular modelling (still geeky, mind).
But it’s those who rant endlessly about how they spent all of their life earnings on anime goods and then shouts out to the internet nonstop about how cool it is that annoys me. I know you’re proud of your collection, but I don’t need to see 42 posts per month on it and be forced to assume that outside anime merchandising and merchandise blogging you have nothing else to live for. I don’t even know what to say about those who carry dakimakuras in public just to draw attention, or anyone who made news headlines by marrying girls from Love Plus. I know I’m probably just shoveling blame off onto others here and will feel bad about this post the moment I press publish, but seriously the next time you publicly do something outrageous, think about how it will hurt the way society views us and all our comrades (I probably need to reflect on some actions as well). After all, do you think the rest of the community really appreciates being associated by the general public with that guy who walks around bragging about his 2D waifu?
Seeing as ‘Otaku’ are fascinated about everything else Japan, they should also learn from Japanese culture on keeping the more obsessive parts of your life private:
Japanese society will tolerate a wide range of personal habits, idiosyncrasies, behaviors, and hobbies so long as they remain behind closed doors. As anime director Mamoru Hosoda has noted, virtually everyone online in Japan uses an anonymous nickname. The public and the private in Japan are expected to be strictly separated. — AnimeNation
I can’t say anything about escapism, although this is a problem that applies to far more than just anime. But if you’re one of those people who disregards your real-life friends for anime or buries yourself in manga to forget about how your life is stupid and pointless: you’re just as bad as World of Warcraft addicts and needs help. Using it to temporarily distract yourself from something bad is fine though, literally everyone is guilty of this one point or another.
*awaits stoning*





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In the end, I think it all comes down to having a sober judgement of one’s self. That Gizmodo piece is just pointing out the degree of social awkwardness typically associated with the hobby. As you alluded to, if we wanted to increase the “acceptability” of this hobby, we’d simply have to be more socially aware and respectable. We could do that without necessarily changing hobbies — it just takes time and effort to change society’s view (like, notice how gamers have moved up on the charts over the past 5–10 years).
But the reason this won’t happen is actually related to the reasons why geek culture turns against someone like a Danny Choo (or why the hardcore gamers turned against Spike’s Video Game Awards in the U.S.). There’s an insatiable desire to be “counter-culture”, and to not give in to society’s desire for conformity. As someone like Danny continues to gain more mainstream acceptance for “bishoujo-fandom” and himself, geeks will turn against him for not being a “true geek” (or a “Real Otaku”) and polluting/diluting the hobby. Rather than seeing him as a model and success story, they see him as a traitor and a wannabe (and anyone that tries to follow in his footsteps will be a Fool’s Disciple). And that further fuels the death spiral of social unacceptability and deeper entrenchment that keeps the hobby near the bottom of the pack. There are entire communities on the Internet that seem to have as their mission to embrace and extend the social unacceptability of this hobby (often even making things up to make things seem worse than they really are), simply out of some sort of bizarre sense of fun and rebellion. And downtrodden though they may be, no community is faster to turn on their own. I don’t think certain people want things to change.
So, this may be a self-serving position, but I don’t think collecting merchandise or even talking about it is the big problem here, stigma or not. It’s quite possible to overcome that stigma by just being a “normal, mature human being”. People may think you’re weird, but at least you can still be respectable. For me personally, the main reason I talk about the merchandise I collect is simply to share with others who might be interested, so they can live vicariously through my foolishness. And, in perhaps my own little bit of rebellion, if that makes you feel awkward or threatened about sharing some aspects of this hobby, then I would have to push *some* of that back onto you as well. After all, I don’t think this hobby is necessarily something to be ashamed of, even if the behaviour of certain people who share this hobby sometimes causes us to feel ashamed.
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Well at least we’re above the ‘Furries’ right? ;)
Hubby and I just buy stuff because we think it looks cool, or we really were a fan of the show. I get my model kits because I really do enjoy putting them together. The first kit I ever put together was a model of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A from Star Trek, so its not a hobby that is limited to anime itself.
I put pictures of my kits up because I know that there are few other bloggers other than myself that will find them interesting since they are also Macross fans.
As that article points out if you are really obsessive over it, then you can really be considered a geek of anything. I guess as you say that’s the point. Get your enjoyment out of it, but don’t let it become your life.
I’ll take a day out with hubby over building a model kit or watching a show any time!
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@relentlessflame
Well like I mentioned, I’m not against merchandise for the sake of it. That entire counter-culture thing is sort of BS in my opinion. I’ve rarely cared much about DannyChoo, as he can be an otaku the way he likes for all I care. But it’s the fact that figures like him stands out to ‘represent’ us in society and thus causing everyone to believe that otaku, or anyone heavily consuming Japanese modern visual culture, is similar to DannyChoo that’s annoying me. Yeah, it’s probably not his fault and I’m just seeking something to lash out against (immature huh?), but I think the fact so many bloggers jump on the DannyChoo bandwagon makes other think: oh, he’s not just an extreme case, the rest of them really are that way. Those news articles about Love Plus doesn’t help either.
@sakura
Three step process of normal -> geek -> obsession I guess. We’re all geeks of something around here. It simply seems to be a matter of not crossing that line.
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@Aorii
I commented on mt-i’s blog and I think it largely addresses the issue you’re pointing out. Although he’s outgoing and a bit in-your-face, I guess I hadn’t really considered Danny Choo to be an example of an “extreme case”. OEG actually keeps saying that he, and his “followers”, are not “Otaku enough”. What you’re sort of alluding to here is that you find his unabashed promotion of the more questionable aspects of this hobby to be embarrassing, and you wish he (and his “kind”) would just keep things to themselves a bit more in order to not make “the rest of us” look bad. But yeah… on this point I sort of think that if some people didn’t stand out in front and take the “hits”, we’d have no middle ground to cling to either. Anyway… it’s a good discussion to be having, I think.
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relentlessflame pretty much nailed it. Regardless of our own particular tastes and how socially awkward it may be a large part of it comes down to how we project ourselves to society. As long as we act maturely about it I don’t see much problem in this. In the end us bloggers are just doing what we like and sharing what we love for others to enjoy. Sure we may not like what certain individuals do or how they represent us but attacking them can also makes us look just as bad as them. I’d rather just ignore them and continue to do what I enjoy whether it be showing off merchandise or translating or whatnot.
Everyone has their own fair share of fandom-ism or something like that, so it’s natural for them to express in ways that they like. Sometimes, of course, things tends to get out of hand, thus you’ll see people walking around the streets with those dakimakura and even that marriage with Love Plus like you’ve mentioned!
After all, blogging is a platform for many to share their views about things, and anime products such as figurines and (ugh) dakimakura are often one of the easiest way for anyone to blog about, simply because they just requires pictures and little words. It isn’t too bad, unless the whole post is about them hugging those dakimakuras or filled with “AHHH I LOVE THIS!!” etc etc. In fact, those posts about figurines are most of the time informative, as it allows the readers to have a clearer view on the figurine before deciding on such a heavy investment! I’m not sure about dakimakura, since I’ve yet to see one post about it outside Danny’s site.
At the end of the day, humans are still social beings. The desire to share and (maybe) brag and stuffs like that is always in every single person, so it would be rather difficult to actually “end” all of these. There’s still the issue of “degrading of the community by otaku” as many would put it, but what can you truly do asides from talking about it? Attack them so that they will disappear from the face of the internet? That would only fuel revenge.
Best solution? Just leave them be, like they are affecting anything you’re doing in your daily life! Sooner or later, they will adapt better ways, or even stop entirely!
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Of course, there’s also the matter of what level of public display in fandom still constitutes under the “mature” rating. I do have to agree with Netto that a lot of those figure posts actually are informative. Heck, I once bought a figure I wouldn’t have otherwise due to a post reviewing it. That’s legitimate product reviewing. Thinking back, it’s the people who love to take snapshots of an absurdly messy room with shelves full of figurings while the rest of the floor is covered by barbage and post it with tremendous “otaku pride” that annoys me. Either way though, you guys are right that attacking such wouldn’t do anything, I’ll just dispose of that in the mental garbage bin and hope for a social perception switch (like that of video games) a decade or so from now…
Well, the most we can do is just let them be themselves. Some people can spend a lot on their hobbies, and some don’t. People find different values in things. I myself don’t like dakimakuras but I do like some figurines, but not a whole room full. The people on the news for crazy things probably don’t care how they appear in public, they just wanna do what they wanna do. [You could also say one of the awkward things about anime too is most of the population is male dominated watching cute shows. But nothing stops them and they enjoy it anyways.] Being happy themselves.
Of course, there are people who don’t have anime as a hobby/obsession but have other hobbies/obessions as well. People that play video games a lot, talk and watch about sports a lot, addicted to drinking/gambling/shopping, that sort of thing. It’s just that anime and manga is still a recent thing, but in the west it’s not that familiar. But slowly…the manga selection at my bookstore grows each year.
Anime/manga culture is becoming more popular all over the world. There’s no doubt it’ll keep increase in popularity and people getting interesting in it. Sometimes humans don’t really like change at first. Maybe one day it’ll be common to see anime being opening talked about in public, rather than people hiding it in their rooms. Everyone has a preference on what they want to do with their hobby, whether it’s collecting, cosplaying, blogging, or just marathoning your favorite dvds. You should enjoy what makes you happy rather than focusing on what other people do.
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