Before I get labelled as some Yan­dere the­o­rist like meflo­raine: no, I’m not a Yan­dere expert. Heck, I’m not even a Yan­dere fan, even if Kaede from Shuf­fle sits on my MAL top 10 favorite char­ac­ters or that I tend to like a lot of yan­dere char­ac­ters or that I argue for them when— okay not help­ing my case.

Of all the char­ac­ter archtypes lying about out there, Yan­deres seem to be the most mis­un­der­stood and hated, far more than even the most sadis­tic vari­a­tion of tsun­deres. Obvi­ously, I can’t judge other people’s pref­er­ences on the mat­ter, but I always felt like peo­ple are tak­ing Yan­deres the wrong way. When most peo­ple think of yan­dere they instantly think of “they will mur­der you! Nice boat style!” Uuu­uuu— I feel bad for them already. After all, they just wanted to be your bestest friend for ever and ever and ever. That box­cut­ter busi­ness? It’s not going to hap­pen unless you cheat on or betray them, and in some cases you might be just a bit deserv­ing of what’s com­ing… I mean, Makoto (School Days) sure does.

But even then, it’s not quite that sim­ple. I knew that Yan­deres (and Yan­gires for that mat­ter, see their MAL club for word break­down) were on the extreme ends, but even I didn’t quite under­stand the issue involved until I read this TIME mag­a­zine arti­cle on Bor­der­line Per­son­al­ity Dis­or­der. Yeah, psy­chol­o­gists once thought of this as a fatal dis­ease, how’s that for you sick-girl Moe lovers, not to men­tion all the Dam­aged Goods and Katawa Shoujo fans.

I’m sure peo­ple are going to be too lazy to read an arti­cle so heavy on real-world psy­chol­ogy, so I’ll take some exerpts from it.

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What is Bor­der­line Per­son­al­ity Disorder

Bor­der­line patients seem to have no inter­nal gov­er­nor; they are capa­ble of deep love and pro­found rage almost simultaneously.

It’s also called the Emo­tion­ally Unsta­ble Per­son­al­ity Dis­or­der. Their ten­den­cies for depres­sion and self-harms sounds a bit like the pop­u­lar per­cep­tion of emo, but there’s a big dif­fer­ence: BPD peo­ple can be tremen­dously joy­ous also. The arti­cles gives another good one line metaphor of BPD:

Bor­der­line indi­vid­u­als are the psy­cho­log­i­cal equiv­a­lent of third-degree-burn patients. They sim­ply have, so to speak, no emo­tional skin. Even the slight­est touch or move­ment can cre­ate immense suffering.

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What does it have to do with Yandere

They are pow­er­fully con­nected to the peo­ple close to them and ter­ri­fied by the pos­si­bil­ity of los­ing them — yet attack those peo­ple so unex­pect­edly that they often ensure the very aban­don­ment they fear.

That’s really the sig­na­ture trait of a Yan­dere isn’t it? The com­plete attach­ment and devo­tion they have towards their beloved and best friends, fol­lowed by out­ra­geous reac­tions to any drama in the rela­tion­ship. Kind of like Kaede’s slave-like total ded­i­ca­tion to Tsuchimi Rin, as well as her break­down moments which scared both him and Asa.

A typ­i­cal exam­ple from last year was the lurid tale of an Ontario man labeled bor­der­line who used a screw­driver to gouge out his wife’s right eye.

Yep, that sure sounds like some­thing that came straight out of Hig­urashi to me, just swap the roles and give Sonozaki Mion a screwdriver.

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What causes it

Some bor­der­line indi­vid­u­als come from homes where they were abused, some from sti­fling fam­i­lies in which chil­dren were told to go to their room if they had to cry, and some from nor­mal fam­i­lies that buck­led under the stress of an eco­nomic or health-care cri­sis and failed to pro­vide kids with ade­quate val­i­da­tion and emo­tional coach­ing. “The child does not learn how to under­stand, label, reg­u­late or tol­er­ate emo­tional responses, and instead learns to oscil­late between emo­tional inhi­bi­tion and extreme emo­tional lability,”

Bad par­ent­ing, it sounds like. Basi­cally a case of ‘this child never learned how to han­dle emo­tions’. Sadly, with the social pres­sure of today’s fam­i­lies, the often­time lack­ing of par­ents, and all this eco­nomic reces­sion busi­ness, it’s not sur­pris­ing that BPD patients are on the rise. Yes, that means you’re more likely to meet a Yan­dere than ever before—

There is a good end, so why do peo­ple only think of the bad ones? Huh Rin-kun?

My point in all this? I’m not nec­es­sar­ily try­ing to get peo­ple to like Yan­deres, but I do think that Yan­dere char­ac­ters are those that needs sup­port (and pity, except that’s not always wanted), not ani­mos­ity and blame from others.

There also seem to be some kind of con­fu­sion that Yan­deres hurt their beloved because they enjoy doing so: that’s not Yan­dere, that’s Sadism, and a Yan­dere may exhibit sadis­tic traits but it’s not usu­ally part of their arche­type. Yan­deres don’t hurt their close com­pan­ions because it gives them plea­sure, it’s just that they phys­i­cally express emo­tions — which can be either a really good thing, or a really bad thing.

And frankly, if you were a good part­ner who took a Yandere’s inse­cu­ri­ties to mind, there are actu­ally quite a few joys in the trait. With­out the stabby stabby anger, what remains is ded­i­cated love and trans­par­ent dis­play of exhil­a­rat­ing joy… now there’s some­thing I actu­ally kind of admire. Don’t get me wrong— only kind of, a bit…

and you are the cen­ter of their universe

Well, I guess it depends on the amount of atten­tion you want.

Trolling her with the cake was prob­a­bly a bad idea…

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18 Responses to “The Yandere Origin in Psychology”
  1. mefloraine says:

    I think there are bet­ter ways to express your inse­cu­rity than killing and/or maim­ing peo­ple. :D

    And at least I was just called a the­o­rist and not some sort of expert. ;;;
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  2. Glo says:

    K-On des­per­ately needed (needs) a yan­dere char­ac­ter to kill every­one at the end.
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  3. Netto says:

    You see, these days, yan­deres are often por­trayed as a “killing” kind of char­ac­ter. I barely see any yan­deres that doesn’t hold a weapon these days.

    I under­stand that yan­deres usu­ally have intense devo­tion and feel­ing towards a per­son, and is usu­ally in fear of los­ing them. But as many peo­ple would know, it’s extremely impor­tant that any­one has some kind of “breath­ing” space, and a yan­dere doesn’t exactly allow that, since they are always on the look out for you doing some­thing that might poten­tially… cheat on them?

    *shrugs*

    Great post over­all though, pretty insight­ful and might just hate yan­deres less. :p
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  4. Ningyo says:

    Inter­est­ing con­nec­tion between BPD and the yan­dere. I’d have thought it was an anx­i­ety dis­or­der, but appar­ently it isn’t. Hm.
    As you said, a yan­dere can poten­tially be the per­fect part­ner — openly offer­ing uncon­di­tional, irra­tional love and bound­less affec­tion. Deathly loyal, and expects equal fidelity. Yet the ‘nor­mal’ one of the cou­ple is just as to blame for the error here than the yan­dere. It seems peo­ple reject love after being buf­feted by it; nobody ever wants some­one to always be on their case. The yandere’s part­ner slips away and tries to seek less lim­it­ing plea­sures, the yan­dere chases after him and applies more pres­sure, nobody is happy, etc etc.

    Ulti­mately a yan­dere part­ner is men­tally ill — and thus, is ill-suited for rela­tion­ships which require both peo­ple to often com­pro­mise for one another. A yan­dere is unable to do that, and will cause a very gloomy cou­pling. At least, that’s what I think.
    I have to admit that they can be very sweet some­times, almost sadly so.

  5. From what I know … A LOT of fans like the yan­dere fans. Or per­haps the oens I have in mind are the hor­ror or bloody action lovers. haha!

    Any­wayz, I love how you con­nected the yan­dere char­ac­ters to those with BDP. It makes sense. What makes them creep is that they’re into the extremes O_O;;;

    But I also see yan­dere char­ac­ters as the type with twisted love. They love the per­son but for some rea­son they also enjoy hurt­ing them. It’s scary but it makes me thrilled as well xD Haha­ha­haha!!! *abnor­mal fan*

    Thanks for the link of the TIMES arti­cle. I love read­ing psy­chol­ogy related arti­cles~
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  6. Aorii says:

    @mefloraine: Hence Yan­deres are still an extreme end; per­son­ally, I think Yan­dere Expert sounds more pro­fes­sional xD

    @glo: So moe­blobs shows all need a yan­dere to (1) round out the moe and (2) make things inter­est­ing huh? Well— it would be a nice chal­lenge to them that’s for sure. Sign me up for that.

    @Netto: Yeah, your “BURN ALL YANDERE” tweet reminded me of that atti­tude and hence this post. Good to see it’s lead­ing oth­ers to see in a brighter light =D

    @Ningyo: Men­tal ill­ness indeed, hence even yan­dere lovers should find a bit of help, depend­ing. Mild yan­deres won’t go nuts until you really betray them— it took a long time before Kaede or Sakai get pushed over the top.

    @Sapphire Pyro: “They love the per­son but for some rea­son they also enjoy hurt­ing them” — that’s not Yan­dere, that’s Sadism. There seem to be some con­fu­sion between the two. Yan­dere don’t hurt you because they *WANT* to, it’s just they phys­i­cally express emo­tion, which can be either a really good thing or a really bad thing… reminds me, need add to post.

  7. Shin says:

    Anime needs more yan­dere since they’re more hon­est about their feel­ings than others.

  8. Anon says:

    Another take on BPD:

    The bor­der­line is no one: the bor­der­line waits for the script to define her.”

    http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/01/borderline.html

    So your aver­age, nice guy, harem anime or eroge pro­tag­o­nist = narcissist?

  9. 2DT says:

    I’m reminded of Frankenstein:

    I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imag­ine and rage the likes of which you would not believe. If I can­not sat­isfy the one, I will indulge the other.”

    Beau­ti­ful post. It’s as clear as a summer’s day. Cheers.

  10. Nosferato says:

    I like how you decon­structed the yan­dere idea so neatly, not much to add after the above posts except you’ve a tal­ent for writ­ing, kudos.

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  12. moritheil says:

    At the risk of gen­er­al­iz­ing, we’re in a commitment-phobic soci­ety. Yan­deres crave com­mit­ment above all. Is it any won­der that some peo­ple would find that desire scary? Plenty of men and women run from mar­riage even with­out the pos­si­bil­ity of being carved up with a knife.

  13. Aorii says:

    @Shin: Kirishima Shouko :D

    @2DT @Nosferato: Thanks

    @Moritheil: Well, def­i­nitely true, although fear of com­mit­ment doesn’t seem to be present in ani­manga much now that I think about it—

  14. I was always curi­ous about yan­deres in gen­eral and this entry really enlight­ened me about them. I’m gen­er­ally not a fan of those types, but I do under­stand why they may act like that.

    How much sup­port should you give yan­deres with­out going overboard?

    • Aorii says:

      Lol I’m not sure about that. Seek to under­stand the rea­sons behind their some­times out­ra­geous actions and give them the com­pas­sion you’d other ‘sad girls in snow’ char­ac­ters, I guess xD

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